Военный и авиационный юмор

А разве доподлинно известно, что с ней стало? Там же вроде поговаривали о возможном пленении и выводе в расход как шпиенов?
 
А разве доподлинно известно, что с ней стало? Там же вроде поговаривали о возможном пленении и выводе в расход как шпиенов?
Вроде уже кости нашли и опознали. Давно уже, но только сейчас экспертизу сумели сделать. Никаких японцев не было.
 
Долго сомневался куда запостить эту фублю..... всё-таки совсем не йумор и дамбасяне не вполне военные, но вот всё-таки решил сюда.... короче не судите строго за этот 3.14здец
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Бедные украинцы.... с кем приходится воевать, с реальными говноедами.... Жаль блюющего смайлика нет
 

AK(1)

 
Вроде уже кости нашли и опознали. Давно уже, но только сейчас экспертизу сумели сделать. Никаких японцев не было.
Порылся по этим вашим википедиям, информация противоречива.
Непонятно, какую экспертизу могли проводить в 2018, если сказано, что скелет, найденный в 1940 на Никуамороро давно утерян и есть только фотографии.
Получается, обе версии равноправны.
Или она погибла на Никуамороро, при том, что островок был немножко заселен с 1938 по 1965 и следы пребывания должны были заметить.
Или она таки погибла у японцев в плену в 1945, будучи вывезеной на Сайпан.
 
Порылся по этим вашим википедиям, информация противоречива.
Непонятно, какую экспертизу могли проводить в 2018, если сказано, что скелет, найденный в 1940 на Никуамороро давно утерян и есть только фотографии.
Получается, обе версии равноправны.
Или она погибла на Никуамороро, при том, что островок был немножко заселен с 1938 по 1965 и следы пребывания должны были заметить.
Или она таки погибла у японцев в плену в 1945, будучи вывезеной на Сайпан.
Ну вот по фоточкам и меряли
Lost Skeletal Remains Might Have Revealed Amelia Earhart’s Final Resting Place
JOSH HRALA
2 NOVEMBER 2016
In 1937, Amelia Earhart attempted to circumnavigate the globe in a Lockheed Model 10 Electra aircraft with her co-pilot, Fred Noonan.
After a successful start, their plane disappeared somewhere over the Pacific, and they were never heard from again, sparking a mystery that is still hotly debated to this day.
Now, almost 80 years later, an international team of researchers says that previously dismissed skeletal remains found on a remote island might belong to the famed pilot, suggesting that she died a castaway, and not at sea.

In case you need a refresher, the story of Earhart’s disappearance is almost as famous than the aviation feats she accomplished in her lifetime, such as becoming the first woman to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean.

The story goes that Earhart and Noonan took off from Miami, Florida on 1 June 1937 in an attempt to circumnavigate the globe. The duo flew a remarkable 35,405 kilometres (22,000 miles), making stops in places like South America, India, and New Guinea along the way.

On 2 July 1937, they took off from Lae – the second largest city in Papua New Guinea – heading towards Howland Island, a very small patch of land in the Pacific. But Earhart and Noonan got lost while heading there, and disappeared over the Pacific after losing radio contact.

They were never seen or heard from again, and their remains have never been found. Earhart was declared legally dead on 5 January 1939 after all search efforts failed to produce any evidence of her whereabouts.
Ever since the disappearance, researchers, conspiracy theories, and even government officials have tried and failed to piece together the duo’s final moments. None have been successful, causing a slew of hypotheses to arise – some more credible than others.

Now, a new piece of evidence – which is actually an old piece of evidence revisited – has researchers thinking that Earhart might have died as a castaway on a small island called Nikumaroro, Barbara Maranzani reports for History.

Nikumaroro was considered uninhabited until 1938, and it lies roughly 563 kilometres (350 miles) southeast of Howland Island, which sits just north of the equator in the central Pacific Ocean.

According to researchers from the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) – a group that's been investigating Earhart’s disappearance for 25 years now – Nikumaroro Island is littered with artefacts that might have belonged to Earhart or Noonan.

Some of these items include flight jacket buttons, a mirror, aluminium sheets, and even anti-freckle cream that some think Earhart might have kept with her. They also say that, based on sonar imagery, Earhart’s plane might lie off the island’s coast under 201 metres (660 feet) of ocean water.

But the most intriguing piece of evidence is a skeleton that was found on the island back in 1940. Upon initial investigation by an unnamed British medical examiner, the bones were dismissed as nothing more than a castaway that was most likely a male.

Then, in the 1990s, the file was reopened, and a new examiner said the bones were likely female, and matched Earhart’s specific height. The bones have since been misplaced, leaving nothing but photos of them.

Fast-forward to earlier this year, when the files were once again reopened by Richard Jantz, professor emeritus of forensic anthropology at the University of Tennessee.

He found that the skeleton’s forearms were longer than expected, which was a common trait in women who were born around the same time as Earhart (in 1897), reports Maranzani.

The TIGHAR team suggests that this feature, which was verified by private forensic imaging specialist Jeff Glickman, who compared the bones to images of Earhart, hints that the bones might belong to her, though they are unwilling to fully jump to the conclusion.

And unfortunately, the bones are no longer around to investigate the claim further.

"The match does not, of course, prove that the castaway was Amelia Earhart, but it is a significant new data point that tips the scales further in that direction," the team said.

While this discovery is a step in the right direction for figuring out what happened to Earhart and Noonan, it’s important to note that none of the work has been peer-reviewed, which means we have to remain skeptical of the results for now.

The next step for the team is to set up another trip to the island to see if there is any more evidence to be collected. Hopefully, we might then have enough data to finally be able to put an end this mystery once and for all.

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Ну вот по фоточкам и меряли


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Dык получается, все что нужно, чтобы подтвердить или опровергнуть ту гипотезу - найти остатки самолета.

Они также говорят, что, основываясь на изображениях сонара, самолет Эрхарта может находиться у побережья острова на глубине 201 метра (660 футов) над уровнем моря.
 
 
Ну вот по фоточкам и меряли
Lost Skeletal Remains Might Have Revealed Amelia Earhart’s Final Resting Place
JOSH HRALA
2 NOVEMBER 2016
In 1937, Amelia Earhart attempted to circumnavigate the globe in a Lockheed Model 10 Electra aircraft with her co-pilot, Fred Noonan.
After a successful start, their plane disappeared somewhere over the Pacific, and they were never heard from again, sparking a mystery that is still hotly debated to this day.
Now, almost 80 years later, an international team of researchers says that previously dismissed skeletal remains found on a remote island might belong to the famed pilot, suggesting that she died a castaway, and not at sea.

In case you need a refresher, the story of Earhart’s disappearance is almost as famous than the aviation feats she accomplished in her lifetime, such as becoming the first woman to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean.

The story goes that Earhart and Noonan took off from Miami, Florida on 1 June 1937 in an attempt to circumnavigate the globe. The duo flew a remarkable 35,405 kilometres (22,000 miles), making stops in places like South America, India, and New Guinea along the way.

On 2 July 1937, they took off from Lae – the second largest city in Papua New Guinea – heading towards Howland Island, a very small patch of land in the Pacific. But Earhart and Noonan got lost while heading there, and disappeared over the Pacific after losing radio contact.

They were never seen or heard from again, and their remains have never been found. Earhart was declared legally dead on 5 January 1939 after all search efforts failed to produce any evidence of her whereabouts.
Ever since the disappearance, researchers, conspiracy theories, and even government officials have tried and failed to piece together the duo’s final moments. None have been successful, causing a slew of hypotheses to arise – some more credible than others.

Now, a new piece of evidence – which is actually an old piece of evidence revisited – has researchers thinking that Earhart might have died as a castaway on a small island called Nikumaroro, Barbara Maranzani reports for History.

Nikumaroro was considered uninhabited until 1938, and it lies roughly 563 kilometres (350 miles) southeast of Howland Island, which sits just north of the equator in the central Pacific Ocean.

According to researchers from the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) – a group that's been investigating Earhart’s disappearance for 25 years now – Nikumaroro Island is littered with artefacts that might have belonged to Earhart or Noonan.

Some of these items include flight jacket buttons, a mirror, aluminium sheets, and even anti-freckle cream that some think Earhart might have kept with her. They also say that, based on sonar imagery, Earhart’s plane might lie off the island’s coast under 201 metres (660 feet) of ocean water.

But the most intriguing piece of evidence is a skeleton that was found on the island back in 1940. Upon initial investigation by an unnamed British medical examiner, the bones were dismissed as nothing more than a castaway that was most likely a male.

Then, in the 1990s, the file was reopened, and a new examiner said the bones were likely female, and matched Earhart’s specific height. The bones have since been misplaced, leaving nothing but photos of them.

Fast-forward to earlier this year, when the files were once again reopened by Richard Jantz, professor emeritus of forensic anthropology at the University of Tennessee.

He found that the skeleton’s forearms were longer than expected, which was a common trait in women who were born around the same time as Earhart (in 1897), reports Maranzani.

The TIGHAR team suggests that this feature, which was verified by private forensic imaging specialist Jeff Glickman, who compared the bones to images of Earhart, hints that the bones might belong to her, though they are unwilling to fully jump to the conclusion.

And unfortunately, the bones are no longer around to investigate the claim further.

"The match does not, of course, prove that the castaway was Amelia Earhart, but it is a significant new data point that tips the scales further in that direction," the team said.

While this discovery is a step in the right direction for figuring out what happened to Earhart and Noonan, it’s important to note that none of the work has been peer-reviewed, which means we have to remain skeptical of the results for now.

The next step for the team is to set up another trip to the island to see if there is any more evidence to be collected. Hopefully, we might then have enough data to finally be able to put an end this mystery once and for all.

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Экспертиза по фоточке - это серьезно :)
В конце концов, это только предположение. Интересное, конечно.
 
Экспертиза по фоточке - это серьезно :)
В конце концов, это только предположение. Интересное, конечно.
"Электру" надо извлекать. Помнится, затонувшую капсулу "Меркурий" достали с куда бОльшей глубины. Амелия, по тогдашним меркам, человек вполне масштаба Гленна или Гриссома.
 

AK(1)

 
"Электру" надо извлекать. Помнится, затонувшую капсулу "Меркурий" достали с куда бОльшей глубины. Амелия, по тогдашним меркам, человек вполне масштаба Гленна или Гриссома.
Почитал про программу "Меркурий" и как в ней использовали шимпанзе.
Понравилось - " Первый виток вокруг Земли корабль совершил за 1 час и 28,5 минут. Планировались три витка, однако, корабль не вышел на расчётную орбиту, поэтому было принято решение вернуть корабль на Землю на втором витке. По сообщениям наблюдателей, после приводнения Энос был доставлен на спасательный корабль, где он прыгал и бегал от радости по палубе и пожимал руки спасателям."
" - Спасибо, мужики, выручили!"

Коммунистических собачек жалко.

А "Электры" там скорее всего нет. Вроде как в 2019 году ничего интересного не обнаружили.
Да и вообще я скептически отношусь к такой гипотезе, с учетом того, что колонисты, поселившиеся на очень небольшом острове всего через год, не нашли никаких признаков экипажа, кроме скелета неизвестного происхождения.
Скорее он относится к катастрофе "Норвич Сити" 1929 года.
 
А мне про "Меркурий" больше всего нравится то, в какую баночку (при отсутствии приличного носителя) пацанов упаковывали. Студентам говорю: это был уникальный случай, первый и последний, когда у Советов был "Мерс", а у США - "Запорожец"...)))
 
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Zeev

 
А мне про "Меркурий" больше всего нравится то, в какую баночку (при отсутствии приличного носителя) пацанов упаковывали. Студентам говорю: это был уникальный случай, первый и последний, когда у Советов был "Мерс", а у США - "Запорожец"...)))
Скорее у советов была "полуторка", а у янки мотоцикл. Причем СССР на этой полуторке кабину имел как седло от мотоцикла.
 
Скорее у советов была "полуторка", а у янки мотоцикл. Причем СССР на этой полуторке кабину имел как седло от мотоцикла.
Типичное русофобия антисоветизм отрицание реальности. Таки в тот момент СССР намного опережал США в космосе. Американцы кстати тогда реальность не отрицали. Сказали - ОК. Подержи мое пиво. Мы сделаем это не потому что это легко....
 

Zeev

 
Типичное русофобия антисоветизм отрицание реальности. Таки в тот момент СССР намного опережал США в космосе. Американцы кстати тогда реальность не отрицали. Сказали - ОК. Подержи мое пиво. Мы сделаем это не потому что это легко....
Чтоб не ввязываться в дискуссии, просто предлагаю почитать мемуары Каманина.
 
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